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fixup
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This is the right way to do wireless
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May 11, 2008, 09:19:29 AM »
Those who used a smartphone like iPhone or Moto Q love the always-ready wireless connection. After some playing with my Q, I achieved the same - my oqo can connect within 1 second whenever needed. Here is the details.
First thing first, don't use VZAccess (or the equivalent if you have Sprint). So don't let it start automatically. Uncheck NDIS mode and auto connect. NDIS is extremely slow at reconnecting especially after wake up.
Don't let oqomanager to handle it neither. Control Panel, Oqo settings, uncheck connect using oqo dashboard.
Just use the 3g Connection that comes with your oqo. All you need to do is: open control panel, network connections, right click on 3g Connection, properties. Change phone # from ppp to #777. In options, set redial attempts to 0, idle time before hang up to 1 minute, uncheck redial if line is dropped. These are very important; if you let it redial here, it will conflict with the following settings and it will crash the dialup service.
Then open Internet Explorer, Tools, Internet Options, Connections. Check the radio button "Dial whenever a network connection is not present". This way it will not use EVDO if wifi is available. Set 3g Connection as the default. Then click on Settings, click on Advanced. Set it to Try connect 10 times, wait 5 seconds and disconnect after 3 minutes. Also check the last item. This way it'll dial EVDO whenever needed and your oqo is connected within 1 second. This is as good as an always ready Internet like a smartphone, only better because it is disconnected automatically to save battery.
The key is don't use NDIS mode, don't let any of these to handle your EVDO: the oqomanager, the Network Connections and VZAccess. Use only IE to handle it. Note: the IE settings work system wide, i.e., Firefox and all other Internet applications will use the same settings.
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3goldens
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Re: This is the right way to do wireless
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May 11, 2008, 09:36:31 AM »
I do not see 3g connection in Vista, are you referring to Xp?
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captgoodhope
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Re: This is the right way to do wireless
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May 11, 2008, 12:43:56 PM »
fixup, where is that NDIS setting you're referring to?
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fixup
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Re: This is the right way to do wireless
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May 11, 2008, 02:06:56 PM »
Yes I'm using XP but Vista should be very similar and even better and easier (unless MS screwed up it). The key point is: just use IE to handle the dial up and don't use anything else.
If the 3G Connection is not there, just add a new dialup connection with the wizard. The phone # to dial is #777 and no username and password, using the Novatel modem. In the options, don't let it prompt for password and phone #.
NDIS mode is disabled by default. So if you never enabled it, you don't need to worry about it. You can see this option in VZAccess Manager, Preference. Sprint is very similar.
I love this and no longer want a smartphone built into oqo. It connects me to the Internet in less than 1 second whenever I need and all are automatic. When WiFi is avilable, it then won't dial up. Perfect!!!
I should point it out: I'm not running oqomanager.
Click on these photos to see them in full (I hate that this forum limit photos to such invisible tiny size):
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hxpii
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Re: This is the right way to do wireless
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May 11, 2008, 09:57:15 PM »
This isn't working for me. I'm using Vista with VZAcess and OQO Manager installed. All settings were set as prescribed but IE doesn't try to connect. I can only get WWAN to connect through VZAccess directly. It was always my understanding that the ONLY way to connect on Verizon was through their software. That's their controlling nature I guess. If others are having problems too I hope someone can work this out. I'll admit I am attracted to the idea of automated, speedy and power-saving connection management. Cheers.
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zodiattack
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Re: This is the right way to do wireless
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May 11, 2008, 11:18:39 PM »
Thanks fixup for the tip. I got it working in XP. One question, whne IE starts with no internet connection (ie: WiFi), the DUN will pop up and I have to click the Connect button to initiate the connection. Does your setup require you to do the same or does it automatically dials for you?
Frank
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fixup
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Re: This is the right way to do wireless
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May 11, 2008, 11:45:41 PM »
hxpii, try double-click on the dialup icon. If it says something like "this can be used only with VZAccess...", then you need to add a new dialup connection with the wizard per what I described earlier.
Frank, verify your settings with the pictures I posted. Make sure you don't check items like "Prompt for phone number...", "Prompt for name...". Do check items like "Dial whenever a network connection is not present...", "Set as default...". It never pops up anything on me, unless a dialup attempt just failed because my oqo was still waking up the dialup service (you hear two beeps).
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fixup
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Re: This is the right way to do wireless
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May 12, 2008, 03:35:01 PM »
If dialup is connected, your oqo won't go standby automatically. Usually this is not a problem because we set the connection to disconnect after 1 or 3 minutes. However, some websites use java script to keep activities on the connection, so it never get a chance to disconnect. Some of these sites are: dslreports and engadget.
Not only are these script annoying (mostly annoying ads), they also harm your oqo by consuming lots of your CPU time and memory and thus running it hot.
The solution is the NoScript plugin for firefox. Very nice and very flexible. It can optionally block pretty much all other annoying stuff as well: java, flash, silvernight...
http://noscript.net/
Of course you should have also enabled the adblock+ that the oqo engineer thoughtfully installed it into Firefox for you and you should have subscribed to at least one subscription. You should also have disabled image animation (about:config, change "normal" to "none").
Once you have done these, your web browsing experience is once again very enjoyable like 15 years ago: clean, quiet, fast, cool and safe. They do not block anything permanently and you can always enable it temporarily when you need through a simple click. Perfect solutions.
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3goldens
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Re: This is the right way to do wireless
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May 13, 2008, 08:28:02 AM »
Does not work in vista.
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Ronc
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Re: This is the right way to do wireless
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May 15, 2008, 03:14:16 AM »
Fixup,
Just a couple of questions about the IE #777 method:
1) If no longer using the carrier's connection manager does it ever need to be installed in the first place?
2) The main purpose of NDIS was to hold the connection so that it would never be dropped. Does the #777 method hold the connection just as well as NDIS?
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fixup
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Re: This is the right way to do wireless
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May 15, 2008, 11:18:58 AM »
I never install carrier's software and I actually uninstalled the VZAccess Manager that's installed by default. All you need is the Novatel driver, found on the oqo recovery DVD disc or from oqo website. Then just add a new dialup connection for #777.
NDIS will keep a non-drop connection only when oqo is powered on. When it is standby, the connection is still dropped and it takes a loooong time to reconnect after wake up. Dialup takes almost no time to reconnect. And yes, you can keep dialup always connected by checking the option like "redial if the line is dropped". As reconnection is so fast, I don't see why you still want a non-drop dialup connection. I set it to disconnect after 1 minute to save battery life and to allow my oqo go sleep after a while (if a dialup is connected computer won't go sleep automatically).
NDIS used to sound perfect to me, but after real use, I found it is crap. In addition to slooow reconnection, its latency is significantly higher than dialup, 250 ms vs. 150 ms. WWAN is dialup (PPP) by nature, when you wrap it to make it like a NDIS, you must pay for that with performance loss.
Bottom line: never ever use NDIS, no matter what you do because dialup can achieve whatever NDIS can and it is much faster.
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hxpii
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Re: This is the right way to do wireless
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May 15, 2008, 02:20:39 PM »
I'll hold off until someone with Vista and Verizon makes it work. My OQO is already acting flacky with it's audio device. The last thing I want is an OQO that doesn't connect anymore. This is promising though; just waiting for someone with a confirmed outcome with my setup. I'm more cautious with devices with long range support and closed platform design. Thanks.
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kyone
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Re: This is the right way to do wireless
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May 15, 2008, 03:10:52 PM »
I use an external 3G USB modem and from day 1 I uninstalled the dialup manager and just used Vista dialup. Windows dialup is a lot more simple, faster. An odd thing with Vista is that if you put the mouse on the connection icon in the tray it does not tell you how much data has been sent and received, so you sort of run blind with the amount of data you are using.
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3goldens
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Re: This is the right way to do wireless
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May 17, 2008, 09:26:46 AM »
kyone-
perha[s you could share a walk through for those of us that are having trouble?
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3goldens
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Re: This is the right way to do wireless
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May 21, 2008, 09:29:13 AM »
Any chance someone could post a walk though to use WWAN without the OQO manager?
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