When Will the OQO3 Be Available?

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[Dave P]

In fact, I'd push for 4GB (even though Vista can only use 3) in anticipation of the next Windows.

Really? I didn't know that. What does Vista do with the RAM beyond 3GBs? I've seen a fair few with 4GB lately - does the remainder just sit there idle?

Stu

My understanding is that Vista (the 32 bit versions) only address the first 3GB of RAM. The rest of the RAM is reserved for the hardware so it's not just idle.

Intel Atom only support 2Gb

[bleep].

[PlacidoDomenech]

3Gb maximum memory in Vista for 32 bit.
4Gb or more in Vista for 64 bit.

If OQO uses Intel Atom , only support 2Gb maximum.
http://news.softpedia.com/news/New-Intel-SCH-Specifications-to-Support-up-to-2GB-of-Memory-92787.shtml

 

[PlacidoDomenech]

Expansys delayed a lot OQO models to 3 November.


First, september, then october, then november....
This is not a problem of stock.

Puf  This is not normal. 

[stuartguthrie]

My understanding is that Vista (the 32 bit versions) only address the first 3GB of RAM. The rest of the RAM is reserved for the hardware so it's not just idle.

Thanks for that info Dave.

Stu

[stuartguthrie]

Expansys delayed a lot OQO models to 3 November.


First, september, then october, then november....
This is not a problem of stock.

Puf  This is not normal. 

I don't know for sure but I'd say that OQO are probably clearing current inventory getting ready for the release of the 03. They're probably waiting for the other retailers to clear the remainder of current stock.

Stu

[PlacidoDomenech]

I think the same. 
I don't understand why OQO don't say nothing. 
I hope we have  real news soon...the silence is not a good option. 

[stuartguthrie]

I don't understand why OQO don't say nothing. 

If they announced something now then it would probably impact on the sales of the remaining 02 inventory as a lot of people would put off purchasing one to wait and see what improvements / upgrades the 03 had.

Stu

[PlacidoDomenech]

But with this situation...what do you think the people is thinking?

I have customers, that since IDF Intel hope OQO Atom and don't buy OQO 02. So the problem is NOW. There is two problems customers (and we, like users) want... OQO must be cooler, and better battery life. With Atom this will happen...so what you are waiting for announce an OQO 03 release?

Nowadays , thanks to Internte, the people and customers know ALL.

I hope in november i will buy OQO 02+ / OQO 03 

 

[dlach]

Placido,

What Stu is mentioned to is sometimes referred to as "the osborne syndrome".  It is well
known in the industry that pre-announcing can strand your inventory, freeze your cash floe, and if the new product is late, kill you your company.  Any management team worth their salt knows this all too well.

You saw how quickly Dennis moved to try to control the IDF damage.  I'd be willing to bet there was some teeth gnashing going on at OQO when it happened, maybe even some internal disagreement over letting it happen, possibly resulting in a departure.  All pure speculation of course.  But I think you can rest assured there will be no announcement until the new product is in the mfg pipeline and inventories are sufficiently clear that a fire sale just above cost won't hurt too badly.

Just because your customer are holding off doesn't mean there are no O2/E2 customers buying.

[Jope]

My understanding is that Vista (the 32 bit versions) only address the first 3GB of RAM. The rest of the RAM is reserved for the hardware so it's not just idle.

Yes it is, very idle indeed.

The machine maps your graphics board and other hardware in that last 1GB of address space, the RAM is never addressed.

So what is reserved is address space, not the actual memory that would have resided there.

[roger]

Just because your customer are holding off doesn't mean there are no O2/E2 customers buying.

I would buy another OQO 2 best without any qualms. I have found it completely suitable as a portable mobile unit.

I feel this board gives an undeserved impression of unreliability. Too many whingers' posts.

I would buy more accessories now if I could purchase direct from OQO. My experiences have been that they have been let down badly by eXpansys and dynamism - too expensive, too little information and too slow.

I had extensive personal contact with Dennis to get a duty free direct purchase e2 in Singapore but it all came to nought even with prepayment by Visa debit card offered. He seemed spooked by foreign credit card loss possibilities, upsetting international suppliers and also prosecution by the phone company 02

[PlacidoDomenech]

I know 'The Osborne Syndrome', yes. But OQO simply isn't doing the things well.
If you want to buy one OQO, perhaps you don't wait for a next model.
But if you want to buy OQOs for all your field service team, and you can wait 3 months... what will you do? More knowing that an OQO 03 is near, and OQO 02 is out of stock in the models you want.

IDF Damage? I don't think so. The new of an OQO Atom have a lot repercusion in Internet and all people. For me was a hot new a good manner of say OQO is a lead in mobile area. If OQO hadn't showed nothing, what do you think?

I think there is entusiam for a new model. The quiestion is... what is preparing OQO for us?
And when we have reall news?

[me2k]

Voted December:

In an interview with CNet, VIA's chief CPU designer, Glenn Henry, confirmed that VIA has begun commercial volume shipments literally this week (30/09/2008).

    * VIAC7M-ULV 1,6GHz TDP = 7,5W
    * VIA Nano U2400 processor 1.3+GHz 800MHz 8W
    * VIA Nano U2500 processor 1.2GHz 800MHz 6.8W
    * VIA Nano U2300 processor 1.0GHz 800MHz 5W

Hoping for a Nano as you can see...

[dlach]

I know 'The Osborne Syndrome', yes. But OQO simply isn't doing the things well.
If you want to buy one OQO, perhaps you don't wait for a next model.
But if you want to buy OQOs for all your field service team, and you can wait 3 months... what will you do? More knowing that an OQO 03 is near, and OQO 02 is out of stock in the models you want.

IDF Damage? I don't think so. The new of an OQO Atom have a lot repercusion in Internet and all people. For me was a hot new a good manner of say OQO is a lead in mobile area. If OQO hadn't showed nothing, what do you think?

I think there is entusiam for a new model. The quiestion is... what is preparing OQO for us?
And when we have reall news?

You disagree with me and disagree with you.  There was a lot of potential damage from IDF, if people thought the new machine release was imminent it could have frozen their inventory.  As it is, it looks like they've managed to clear a lot of in in the last two months.  You have to be very careful about this sort of thing when you are a small company.

My opinion is that OQO is the only game in town for the features, functionality and, dare I use the term, form factor.  I completely agree (and I know you disagree) that comparison with MIDs is apples to oranges.   They have demonstrated that their customers are willing to wait because their product is unique.  So I can't agree that they've handled it badly, in fact they've been building anticipation/pent up demand, you admit it yourself, that there is enthusiasm.

On the other hand, I do think the door is wide open for competitors, a lot of people look at my O2 and say "why don't you just get an iPhone?".   I then explain why, but my explanation is barely adequate.  It certainly wouldn't be a big stretch to extend the iPhone/iPod platform right into OQO's niche and I would be the first in line. 

 The key term is niche, as long as it stays that way, so will Apple, and, I suspect, the rest of their potential competition.

[stuartguthrie]

Hoping for a Nano as you can see...

Me too - they look quite impressive.

Stu